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Athenaeum Book Club's avatar

This is good stuff

The Western Spirit's avatar

Do you need a tissue?

Mike's avatar

This vapid mindset is helping destroy our civilization.

Dusty's avatar

“The books you’re better off not reading”

Lance Gallardo's avatar

I am a full-time practicing immigration attorney more than 35 years and I represented Christians and Christian converts from Islam an Asylum applications before USCIS and Immigration Court. I have also represented Jews and Islamic minorities who faced extreme religious persecution in Muslim countries, their home countries. It has been in the honor of my life to represent Muslims Christians and Jews in asylum applications, where they have faced persecution in their home country for their religious beliefs. All of these people my bothers and sister’s have taught me tolerance and love for people of radically different faith traditions.

From both Jew and Muslim, I have learned what the love of God the God you worship can cost you and your family can cost the members of your sex the members of your synagogue or mosque when other people hate you simply because of how you believe or what you believe in terms of your religion. The Christians, who have fled from the Middle East facing murder, death, destruction of their churches and widespread persecution have taught me that martyr dumb as a Christian is not so very far away and these asylum immigrants. These Christians flame persecution have taught me that to really believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God means that you’re willing to accept more done at times and they do this is not just something that happened centuries and centuries ago at the founding of the church under the Romans were feeding Christians to the alliance. It’s happening today in different parts of the world, but it’s also happening to Jews and the Muslims, who don’t share the majority faith of a country that they were born in. It is a peculiar kind of wickedness and evil that I hope that modernity bands together, humanity bands together to stamp out no person should be persecuted or murdered, raped, enslaved because of what they believe or what they don’t believe in as far as God goes does anybody really think that’s what God would want I mean, that is insanity!

I wish nothing but peace upon all people, whether Jew or whether Christian or whether the weather Muslim. Salam Alikum the Peace of the True G-d be upon you! Faithful Muslim and Muslim Holy teachings and scripture from the Holy Koran has not threatened my faith, but has deepened it, as I have been inspired by their faith practices to ask myself where my Christianity would would be if I was required to pray six times a day if I was required to stop my busyness and my earthiness to give things to give praise to give glory to God six times a day have some Muslim does facing Mecca on their knees.

The only Catholics that I’m aware of that are praying with this much frequency and intensity are religious orders people that usually live in monasteries or in cloister communities the structure of their day day around the Lord and prayer and it has been that way since the middle ages, but in maternity in the Catholic or Christian out in the modern world, the western world, the world of money, the world that worships money and power and advancement and prestige all the wrong things we give little heat during our working day to take time out of our day and thank the Lord for our very existence to get on her knees like muscles stew and pray towards Mecca so when I see a Muslim, who has his prayer carpet out and is praying too, Mecca, I often stop or come near him and pray with him, though I’m not I don’t have a Muslim prayer rug to get on. I pray respectfully in a silence next to this manner woman, and I pray for their sins as I hope they’re praying for my sins and my salvation and I believe that they are you cannot be a good Muslim and only pray for Muslims to make it to heaven. You have to pray that all people have a conversion towards God towards the Lord such that they will make it to heaven. The form of this conversion I think in the end does not matter whether a person converts his law Christianity Judaism, one of the three major face that believe in the same God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Joseph. So I’m not threatening at least my Muslim religious practices when it comes to prayer and fasting and everything else that you see in Muslim societies I am inspired. I’m inspired as a person seeking the word seeking heaven, and I tell that to all my Muslim friends, and I have many most friends. Of course they invite me to come to the mosque and consider converting to Islam. They all think I might be on some kind of holy path to my conversion from a Christian to a Muslim from a Catholic to a Muslim, but I told them I’ve already been converted to my soul if you can feel that that emanating me as a human being as a person seeking the Lord, I’ve already been converted, and it matters not whether my conversion is as a Jewish person or a Muslim person or remain more committed Christian. I’m with you in spirit I’m with you in soul. I’ll be with you in heaven in the next life my Jewish and Muslim brothers and sisters!!

That is my testimony before humanity and before my God, our God asks us to to love him of all our earthly desires to seek to return to his house at the end of our lives, to come home come back to Him whence came from, Jew Christian Muslim or non-believer. Again I say to all who read these presents “A Salam Alicia! Peace of God be upon you, now and forever. May God’s Love be with you always!

丽丽's avatar

As a muslim, thank you so much

Magnus's avatar

Two Hundred Years Together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -- An English translation publication of this work by the Nobel Prize winning author has been essentially forbidden. I wouldn't worry about it though. It's undoubtedly for our own good.

Monty frankly's avatar

Hey Magnus just who is doing the book banning. You conjour up these phantoms which are your own brain farts. Checked out if Solzhenitsyn was available to buy, quess what. Treat yourself my bullshitting friend.

Magnus's avatar

The book was published in 2002. The first poorly translated and highly scrubbed English edition became nominally available a few months ago from a non academic press. More than two decades of dynamic muzzling and we still only get a scrubbed translation. Now tell me, liar, is that normal for a Nobel Prize winning author? You know the answer, of course, but you'll do nothing but obfuscate. Because that's all you know how to do.

monty frankly 2's avatar

“Essentially forbidden by who. We should be told. Or is your unsubstantiated assertion just idle tosh.?

Magnus's avatar

The controllers of publishing in the western world. I don't know who that is but dangerous crazy terrorist types who have no place in polite society say it's a tiny minority that is so unfairly persecuted and unjustly downtrodden that they will destroy the lives of anyone daring to mention them unfavorably. What a knob you are, Monty.

monty frankly 2's avatar

Dangerous crazy terrorists who also control the international publishing world But the crazy terrorists are also a down trodden persecuted minority.🤔 You round of this curious little rant with a gratuitous insult.Magnus your a dumb person trying to act educated aren't you ? Does your mom know you write to strangers?🤗

Magnus's avatar

Can't read. Can't write. But don't let that hold you back. 😂

monty frankly 2's avatar

Your a bit of funny boy aren't you Get an education it will be your own personal enlightenment.🥱

Magnus's avatar

You have the yawn emoji exactly right. Jeezus....

Zaphod's avatar

There was a bit more to Belloc than (ahem) 'Counter-Jihad'.

IYKYK.

Lance Gallardo's avatar

This is not a perspective or a narrative that the pro Islamic immigration forces in Europe or in the United States, want people to believe or understand as a fact.

But it is an undeniable historical fact that Islam for the first 10 centuries and to this day in certain places adheres to an aggressive, subjugation Immigration, and forced conversion to Islam policies. Christians buying large do not receive reciprocity at freedom of religion or protection of their faith and people in fundamentalist Islamic countries as they do here in the United States and in western Europe, the freedom to practice religion or to leave it alone to be a proud atheist is not supported in these conservative Muslim countries countries. in fact in Syria and Egypt today, Christians are being persecuted, murdered. Their churches burned down and many are immigrating under asylum policies in Europe, and in the United States, and other western oriented countries, hoping to practice your faith in peace in peace in another country in another place, and some of these branches of Christianity existed long before Islam conquered the area or the region that were historically ancient Christian sects.

The pro Islamic media does not want to cover these stories and they want to suppress the idea that Christians are oppressed and persecuted in many Muslim nations and lands.

You didn’t have to just understand that was coming from Isis and other radical Islamic groups Anti Jew and Anti-Christian rhetoric and religious policies emanates from Wahhabism/ Salafiasm supported by Saudi Arabian money and money from the conservative wealthy Arab oil states. This is well documented, especially after 911 and some of the spectacular murders in an assaults in Western Europe since then when you trace the money follow the money it always leads back to the Middle East and wealthy Arab oil states. The West is afraid to end this Evil at the root for fear of triggering an Oil Economic Panic and global recession or depression. So we absorb our losses and suffer the Fanatical Islamic Terror that assaults our Newspapers and Synagogues and whatever soft civilian targets the Islamic Terrorist chose to hit. Then most of our politicians go on TV and talk about how Islam is a religion of peace, but I don’t see Christian. He stays murdering Muslims willy-nilly either here or in the Middle East. There’s no hatred in Christianity that the way there is in certain facts of Islam, no beliefs that Christians were superior to Muslims simply by reason of our faith perhaps this was true many many years ago centuries ago, but through the enlightenment, most of Christianity stupidity has gone, gone away, not all of it but much of it and I am a practicing Christian and I admit that they were were persecutions of Hews and Muslims and others perceived to be anti-catholic or anti-Christian or such labels were simply used to settle scores such as with the Templars the night’s Templars were falsely accused of all kinds of craziness and beliefs, and obscene practices, simply so that a French king could settle his debt without having to pay the Templars back. But most of the nonsense about Christianity was settled by the enlightenment and by the role of law, and by the separation of church and state that most western nations have bought into and is written into our constitution first by the United States and then when was the western European countries.

So while we do in the US welcome many people of different faiths and diverse cultures and ideologies, we have no obligation to give up our God-given natural right to self-defense and protection from those who would do us harm simply because they hate our beliefs religious or secular.

AI Overview

Salafism is a fundamentalist and puritanical movement within Sunni Islam that advocates a return to the beliefs and practices of the early generations of Muslims (the salaf) and emphasizes following the Qur'an and Sunnah literally, with a strict rejection of religious innovation (bidʻa) and later interpretations of Islamic law. Salafists aim to "purify" Islam by emulating the salaf and returning to what they believe is the "purest" and "most authentic" form of Islam, believing this to be the path to salvation.

The Transcendentalist's avatar

Interesting article , thank you

Monty frankly's avatar

Seems to me it's Russian orthodox warriors meat waving the gates of Christsondom. Far eastern troops on the ground fighting Christian Ukrainians for the first time in a thousand years . No jihadis here . Your Western spirit a tendentious anti islamic rag .

Craig Holly's avatar

(((They))) don't want us to read about the Jews. And apparently (((you))) don't want us to either

Aparatha's avatar

These are great, but these books fail to recognize that Europe doesn't have to be defined two or three religions from the middle east. It has is own spiritually and rationality. It can be argued that while Islam and Christianity spread throughout the world at roughly the same rates (even reaching India and China before reaching Europe), it was Europe that ended up defining the world. Was it then Islam or Christianity or was it something more primal in Europe that made the difference.

It's useful to stay within the domains of old battles and patterns, but also useful to try to see the water in which these arguments took shape.

We can however agree that secularism has a theology of extraction and exploitation. It seeks to deny the soul for the obvious goal of aggregating soil for the merchants. In this, there's no Christian or Muslim.

August 4's avatar

oh boy Islamophopics are on this app too

The Word Before Me's avatar

This list really stands out. Too often the story of Europe is told as if faith were a side note rather than the center. I appreciate that these authors don’t shy away from naming what shaped Christendom and what threatened it. Whether one agrees with every conclusion or not, the reminder that civilizations rise and fall on what they believe is an important one.

Monty frankly's avatar

Hey Craig Holly such a cliche. Crass, ignorant, What an unpleasant man you are.I bet nobody lives you. Remember Craig when the hating stops you have to deal with pain.😵‍💫

Ezra Corpse's avatar

This is a really good post. There were several books that I have not read. Thank you for sharing.

From the Shelves's avatar

Sword and Scimitar is a fascinating (and overlooked) piece. Ibrahim takes pains to cite primary sources and provide comprehensive notes.

I think you would appreciate this piece:

https://thomasobrien.substack.com/p/columbus-the-most-misunderstood-man